[charlesr1958]

"Does this mean that these organisums are responsable for the fishes death?" Most likely yes, and such an observation/exam would make a lot more sense for a cause than someone taking wild guesses or figuring out that a coral should be light acclimated.

"The point that I was trying to make was that these corals can be damaged far easier than other LPS's. "
Damaged in what way? and why easier? How did you come to that conclussion? You state that you can not prove this and that it is not fact, yet you make conclussions. I or anyone can throw wild guesses around all day. How is that helpfull?

When I read through your postings, it gives the impression that you are claiming to have a cure for what has been ailing these corals by taking good care of them. While I am sure such care is helpfull to the corals, you seem to be mixing possible causes up and are making assumptions based on just pure speculation. "I wanted to find a way to keep them alive. I can do this now." Thats great, but again, proves nothing as to the causes of their initial problem, Is it the disease or is it just poor care? And I am speaking of your specimens, which I would suspect is not the disease since yours bleached, which is not indicative of the disease and is one of poor handling/care instead.

"You are not trying to help anyone with this problem." I can not be of help if I do not know the cause or any possible cure. I am simply pointing out the fact that you are not helping either, other than repeating known care.

"All you are doing is trying to be distuptive and cause more problems." Why? because I am not hailing wild guesses or patting you on the back for figuring out that an LPS or any coral for that matter stands a better chance of doing well if cared for properly?

Why are you so defensive or offended if I or anyone questions something or points out what should be obvious? As I've said before, the only claim you can make is that you have figured out how to care for an LPS, thats nice, but thats about all it is. You have no way to know what the cause is. period. If someone does have a coral that is "infected", such basic care is about all you can do, and pointing that out is....nice.

I have collected, in the same manner that the collectors do, specimens (elegance) from shallow water (5-10feet) and from deep water (30-40feet) and have never had any issue with either of the two...ever. Even when allowed to sit in an open bucket in the sun. It is much more likely that the corals are being infected during initial handling/shipping.

Why am I in this thread? Simply because I found your initial claims to be possibly misleading and amount to nothing more than ancedotal (and most likely incorrect) observations. Once again, you figured out that the corals should be placed lower in a tank to avoid light acclimation issues or issues of too much light, thats great and I do not have a problem with that as you seem to think. But you also lead others into thinking that you have found the answer to what has been ailing these corals which might encourage them to purchase the corals, which is what I have a problem with. The title of Elegance coral project" should have read "how to care for an LPS", then I would not have even wasted my time to open the thread.