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meandean45 · 06-03-2007, 10:30 AM

Hi Darrell!

I'm glad to see that the self appointed "Experts" didn't manage to drive you away from the rest of us

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"Elegance Disease" is itself a "Theory"! Did I miss something, or has someone out there somehow proved its' cause? For all of the "Experts" theories, I've yet to see one proved yet. This being said, any number of theories can be put forward, discussed, etc., etc., But until someone can show a scientific fact for the cause, NONE of them can be totally ruled out.

I'm glad to hear that you're still here to help those who choose to make an attempt to keep these lovely corals. As I said in my first post. I've never attempted to keep an Elegance before, but it has always been at the back of my mind that I would be able to oneday. Please continue trying to make that day a reality for me and the others that would like to try them.

I must agree with you that "Scientists" goal is to find an answer for "Elegance disease", and not a way for hobbyists' to keep a healthy specimen flourishing in a home aquarium. I further agree that all of the really useful advances in reefkeeping have been made by hobbyists in the last 40 years. In the 1960s, virtually nobody could keep any kind of coral alive, and at the present time people with no aquarium experience can set up a tank that is hospitable to ALMOST any marine creature. Heck, in the sixties, most people in the SALTWATER hobby couldn't keep FISH alive.

I know that I'm speaking dangerously here, but I'll risk being flamed. THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION! A lot of people say that "certain creatures" shouldn't be kept in reef tanks, because of poor survival rates. But if nobody tries, can we ever hope to find a way for people to keep these delicate creatures? If someone is willing (like yourself), to do the environmental experiments necessary to find out what these creatures require for captive care, shouldn't the rest of us support and encourage these experiments? Personally, I think that we should.I know that mine is the minority opinion here, but I think that what you've done is commendable, and I'm hoping that you'll be willing to invest more of your' time and money investigating what is necessary for the captive care of other "Impossible" corals/creatures. I guess the underlying point here, is that progress is only possible when reasonable attempts are being made. Just bringing home a Difficult coral and plopping it into the tank, then watching it die doesn't confirm that it won't live in captivity. If you bring 8 or 10 home, place them in different environments, and most die but some survive, shouldn't the environment(s) that contain the survivors be investigated further? Even if they all die, does this REALLY prove that they are "unkeepable"? Or just that the right environment hasn't been found yet?

I applaud the environmental work that you have done with the "Elegance", and encourage you to keep it up!

Are you planning to "Aqua-culture" healthy Elegance corals to sell? If you are, please PM me.

Thanks again.
Dean

06-03-2007, 10:30 AM	#54 (permalink)
meandean45 Ricordea Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bradford, Vt., USA Posts: 177 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Elegance Coral theory Hi Darrell! I'm glad to see that the self appointed "Experts" didn't manage to drive you away from the rest of us ! "Elegance Disease" is itself a "Theory"! Did I miss something, or has someone out there somehow proved its' cause? For all of the "Experts" theories, I've yet to see one proved yet. This being said, any number of theories can be put forward, discussed, etc., etc., But until someone can show a scientific fact for the cause, NONE of them can be totally ruled out. I'm glad to hear that you're still here to help those who choose to make an attempt to keep these lovely corals. As I said in my first post. I've never attempted to keep an Elegance before, but it has always been at the back of my mind that I would be able to oneday. Please continue trying to make that day a reality for me and the others that would like to try them. I must agree with you that "Scientists" goal is to find an answer for "Elegance disease", and not a way for hobbyists' to keep a healthy specimen flourishing in a home aquarium. I further agree that all of the really useful advances in reefkeeping have been made by hobbyists in the last 40 years. In the 1960s, virtually nobody could keep any kind of coral alive, and at the present time people with no aquarium experience can set up a tank that is hospitable to ALMOST any marine creature. Heck, in the sixties, most people in the SALTWATER hobby couldn't keep FISH alive. I know that I'm speaking dangerously here, but I'll risk being flamed. THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION! A lot of people say that "certain creatures" shouldn't be kept in reef tanks, because of poor survival rates. But if nobody tries, can we ever hope to find a way for people to keep these delicate creatures? If someone is willing (like yourself), to do the environmental experiments necessary to find out what these creatures require for captive care, shouldn't the rest of us support and encourage these experiments? Personally, I think that we should.I know that mine is the minority opinion here, but I think that what you've done is commendable, and I'm hoping that you'll be willing to invest more of your' time and money investigating what is necessary for the captive care of other "Impossible" corals/creatures. I guess the underlying point here, is that progress is only possible when reasonable attempts are being made. Just bringing home a Difficult coral and plopping it into the tank, then watching it die doesn't confirm that it won't live in captivity. If you bring 8 or 10 home, place them in different environments, and most die but some survive, shouldn't the environment(s) that contain the survivors be investigated further? Even if they all die, does this REALLY prove that they are "unkeepable"? Or just that the right environment hasn't been found yet? I applaud the environmental work that you have done with the "Elegance", and encourage you to keep it up! Are you planning to "Aqua-culture" healthy Elegance corals to sell? If you are, please PM me. Thanks again. Dean __________________ Meandean45 -RELATIVITY: "Sit on a red hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit next to a pretty Girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's Relativity". A.Einstein : "A man's got to know his limitations."- Clint Eastwood in "Magnum Force"