Vortech MP10 keeps falling

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Ripperj

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Twice in the last week, and several times in the last month, my MP10 fell off my 130d. I'm not using the spacer and the glass is clean. It happens at night when the pump is in reduced speed. The rubber on both halves is in good shape and the heads are aligned properly with no vibration.
Any ideas?
 
Tokalosh

Tokalosh

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This is first I've heard of this, a little puzzling if you ask me.
The magnets are normally pretty strong and don't budget at all.

I do know that they are a little weak when using the rubber spacers.

Tok
 
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ENZO

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Tokalosh said:
This is first I've heard of this, a little puzzling if you ask me.
The magnets are normally pretty strong and don't budget at all.

I do know that they are a little weak when using the rubber spacers.

Tok
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Tok on an RSM 250 do you have to use the rubber spacers?
 
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Ripperj said:
Twice in the last week, and several times in the last month, my MP10 fell off my 130d. I'm not using the spacer and the glass is clean. It happens at night when the pump is in reduced speed. The rubber on both halves is in good shape and the heads are aligned properly with no vibration.
Any ideas?
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Are you using the sticky pads and tie straps to hold the cord up?
 
goma

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If the dry side is being fully supported by a tie strap, there really is no reason it should be falling...baffling..
 
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offshore357

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Ripperj said:
Twice in the last week, and several times in the last month, my MP10 fell off my 130d. I'm not using the spacer and the glass is clean. It happens at night when the pump is in reduced speed. The rubber on both halves is in good shape and the heads are aligned properly with no vibration.
Any ideas?
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Mine does this some times. A snail or hermit crawls in and stops the impeller. When that happens the dry side keeps spinning a little and changes polarity which ejects the wet side. I guess it would also happen if the wet side was going bad and binding.

Tokalosh said:
No mate, not on a 250.

Tok
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Per Ecotech, The glass on the 250 is too thick for the MP10. We are supposed to be using MP40's :rolleyes: .
 
goma

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Tokalosh said:
Honestly I think the MP40's would be to strong and overpowering, the MP10's work just fine. I have never run mine at max either.

Tok
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Same here, two MP-10s in my 250 and have them running at 70% and never had one fall off.
 
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offshore357

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Clearly not the op's problem as its a 130. well within the MP10 specs. I suspect their issue is similar to what happens in mine. Especially as it happens at night.

I run my MP10 at 100 % without any issues. Having said that, they really don't have the bite that the mp40 has on much thicker glass. I would think that the 250 is on the edge of the mp10 capability. Well the RSM 250 is only .5mm out.

I would not mind the MP40 at all. it has a much broader flow. just run it slower. Thing that stops me is its cost prohibitive for this little tank. I have realized that my mp10s die with this tank. So at this point if one were to go out i would probably replace it with a mp40.
 
blackbeltmom

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I have tried MP10's a couple of times. I may be one of the few that does not like them. The last one that I had was doing the same thing.

Is it new or used. It may be that you need to take the wetside completely apart and clean it. That was what I had to do to solve the problem.
 
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Ripperj

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I was wondering if it was a snail stopping the propeller. Not sure what i could do about it if that is the cause.
Thanks for all the ideas.
Keith
 
jrbass

jrbass

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you have any big turbo snails? those are like a bull in a china shop and believe they could push it off.
 
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w00t

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I know you said the glass was clean and the rubber pads were in good shape, but are the pads nice and clean? About all I can think of, that does seem really odd though.

I honestly can't imagine mine doing that, I've never had it move at all and every time I put it on it seems to be on there good. Heck I don't even have the ties installed so nothing is helping hold the dry side up. In fact I've had it completely off overnight a few times, while I let hermits clean the inside of it for me lol.
 
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Ripperj

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The rubber pads are very clean as I worry bout the glass getting scratched. All my snails are small, small enough that some could get into the wet side.
 
blackbeltmom

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When mine kept falling I emailed Ecotech. Here is what they told me.



Sent from my iPad

On Feb 18, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Rob Wilkinson <Rob.Wilkinson@ecotechmarine.com> wrote:

Debbie,

I think you should disassemble the wetside to see if any debris was pulled into the magnet area in the wet frame.

Best,
Rob Wilkinson
Customer Service Representative
EcoTech Marine
P: 800-785-0338 EX 106
F: 888-500-2907
Rob.wilkinson@ecotechmarine.com
www.ecotechmarine.com




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From: Debbie [mailto:dgaither59@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:10 AM
To: Rob Wilkinson
Subject: Re:

Rob,
Thanks for the quick response.
The tank is a Red Sea Max 250, the glass in is 10mm or .40 inch.
I did try trying it off and reattaching them. They still won't stay attached to each other.
Yesterday, I thought I had it fixed, but it was noisy. I went back to tiling my bathroom and my husband came up and got me told me that they had separated again and the wetside was laying on the bottom. I cleaned off the back of the wetside, making sure there was no sand. I cleaned both sides of the glass, but it won't work correctly.

Thanks.
Debbie
From: Rob Wilkinson <Rob.Wilkinson@ecotechmarine.com>
To: "dgaither59@bellsouth.net" <dgaither59@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:46 AM
Subject: RE:

Debbie,


Double check the glass thickness of your aquarium. You might need to use the included rubber spacer.

They will always seem to repel one another if the pump is running. Power the unit off before attempting to re-couple the wet and dry sides.

Best,
Rob Wilkinson
Customer Service Representative
EcoTech Marine
P: 800-785-0338 EX 106
F: 888-500-2907
Rob.wilkinson@ecotechmarine.com
www.ecotechmarine.com




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My MP10ES makes funny noise and then the wet side releases from the dry side. Once this happens they repel each other.
 
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