The Problems of Having Healthy Fish

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  1. Paul B

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    The problem of having healthy fish and inverts.



    Most of us, or rather “all” of us want healthy fish and invertebrates so this may sound odd. But just as there are problems having sickly fish, there are other "problems” having healthy animals.

    I will explain.

    Fish that are not in the best health present few problems, except for their affinity to become sick and die. After the fish dies, the problems with that fish go away except for the money we paid for it.

    But healthy fish have their own problems. First of all the healthier a fish is, the higher it can jump just like an athlete who is fat and out of shape probably won't compete in the high jump at the next Olympics. I lose most of my fish to jumping out. I am not sure if they are very happy or excited to see me but when I feed them, they seem to jump more. I was out in my boat today and it is almost 100 degrees so I left the front panel on my tank, which is built into a wall, open to get more air in. I found one of my flasher wrasses on the carpet.

    I probably lose a fish a month to jumping out even though I try very hard to block every possible exit route; healthy fish always find a new one.

    Even if they don’t make it to the carpet, I find them on the lights or sometimes I don’t find them until years later tucked inside a crack in the wall under my tank (which is in a dark closet)

    Healthy fish are also always spawning, building a nest or looking for a mate. Fish are not like us and will mate with any fish of the opposite sex no matter their social standing, taste in clothes or looks. When I was dating I was particular in certain ways and the girl had to at least have her eyes where they should be and have a pulse and not eat with her feet. That was about the extent of my criteria. Fish don’t seem to care.

    But for us, mating fish have problems. Mating fish will always bite you when you stick your hand in the tank and they have no fear that you are 7,000 times bigger than they are. I got into quite a few fights over girls when I was younger, but if the guy was a lot bigger, tougher, stronger or had scary tattoos, I let him have her. I did call to apologize to her later though as I am a Gentleman.

    Another problem with some mating fish is that they only want to lay their eggs on your prized SPS corals and their eggs always kill the coral in that place. The fact that they can’t lay their eggs on a coral that died last week is beyond me. Cute little fish like clown gobies can, and do kill large pieces of acropora, not on purpose of course but by laying eggs all over them. That is the reason I have no more acropora. But I have clown gobies which are a lot cheaper than acropora. Clown gobies don’t seem to care how much you paid for that acropora and it seems the more you paid, the larger egg masses they lay.

    The other problem with mating fish is that we get all excited to find the eggs that we go out and buy a tank to raise the babies, then we order rotifers, green water to feed the rotifers, brine shrimp eggs. Nets, lights, air pumps medications, close up lenses for our cameras, microscopes etc. The fry usually die and we carry all that stuff outside for our next garage sale.

    Healthy fish are normally immune fish and healthy, immune fish usually live forever. If you don’t really like that fish, you can be stuck with it for eternity. I bought a fireclown 26 years ago. I don’t even like clownfish and bought it as a baby because I thought it was a flame hawkfish. I found out later it was a fireclown. Have you ever even seen a fireclown? Not the best looking clownfish. I think I have seen two of them in my life and I bought the other one as a birthday present for my other one. Not that I want anything to happen to them but they never die. The interesting, colorful, rare fish I get jump out, but the fireclowns have been with me for over a quarter of a century and all they do is spawn. Almost every day they spawn. I mean, don’t they ever get tired of each other! It’s the same thing 5 or 6 times a week. OK I am a little jealous, but Jees!

    Do my banded pipefish live for 26 years? No, how about my Marine Betta? Um, no. Ruby Red Dragonettes, Not hardly, but fireclowns, forget about it. I think if I laid one in the street and had a school bus full of high school seniors that just came back from a hot dog eating contest run them over twice, they would spawn on the asphalt.

    Healthy fish are also strong fish and can, and do carry corals and rocks all over your tank, usually to the back where you can't find it.
    I can't buy small frags unless I tie them to a cinder black because at least one of my fish will carry it away to the nether regions of my tank where it becomes lunch for my Godzilla Bristleworms which are also, unfortunately very healthy.

    You can see her devil eggs above her. That, and all my acropora became history because of her and her boyfriend.
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    Spawning, Spawning, Spawning, That's all they do.

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    We all wish for such problems with healthy fish.
     
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    My new Puntata Butterfly showed some spots on the clear fins. I was totally unprepared for it . I started to clean up ta 20gl I had out back. The fish didn't show nearly as many spots today . I hope Paul's theory is correct in this case. It 's eating like an aquatic pig on my Leebca & Paul B inspired fish mix !
    oyster,clam, mysis whole chopped silver side, and some Rod's reef for filler. I add fish roe when I have some on hand. There are only a pair of clowns in the tank. Hope a healthy diet will help. If not ,I should have a qt setup by then.
     
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    Cracker I get in trouble for my theories on this but I think un quarantined fish (from the start) in a natural un quarantined tank (set up that way) with bacteria laden fresh or frozen food equals very healthy, spawning, spot free fish, if done correctly. I never have those problems with spots or any diseases of any type. My fish just think they can fly and jump out. :cool:
     
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    I hope it doesn't get deleted. I am just surprised you still read my posts. Especially since I make all of this stuff up. :cool:

    In this particular thread, everything I said about healthy fish is true. I could have embellished a little, but there was no need.
     
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    This lousy picture of one of my queen Anthias is supposed to show that that fish is changing sex to a male. His upper lip is much longer than his bottom lip which also happens in Salmon. I didn't know it happens in Anthias until one of my friends showed a picture of a male to me and told me about it
    Changing sex is another sign of healthy fish because this fish is getting into breeding mode. I only have one other of that particular type but I am trying to get another to see if they spawn.

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    I have mostly these guys with the yellow stripe which I assume are different species.

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    Amazing picture!! :)

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    Thanks, it was hard to get them to stay still but even harder to get them to say, Cheese. :cool:
     
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    My favorite part about the photo is the photobombing mandarin.

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    Yeah, he wasn't supposed to be in that picture and he wouldn't even smile. :D
     
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    Sorry for the late response, The food menu is for sure adding to my fishes health .My Copper Band is getting thick like yours.
     
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    Mine is on Jenny Craig. :cool:

    (That's Jenny and Craig with her)

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    @Paul B I have to keep the front part of my hood (rms c250) open as I don't have a chiller and I use fans blowing on water for cooling. I use bridal netting stretched across and weighed down with binder clips and close pins, and I tuck the edge under the edge of the lid to hold it in place. It's far enough back but not enough to block light to keep jumpers in BRS (I think) has custom lid kits that I'm going to try for my hoodless display refugium.
     
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    Susan, thanks for replying. I leave the top of mine open so my fish have a free will.
    The ones that jump out are just expressing their right to leave. :D
     
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    lol's @Paul B I'm afraid I'm more of a dictator. "You shall not jump or be free" "You're mine, mine, ya hear? :yup:
     
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