The Mature Aquarium

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One of the most common errors new aquarists make is to try and rush their marine system in order to stock it. It's understandable. Often the purchase of a marine aquarium is a more or less spontaneous or impulsive event, or at least it's an emotional time, and the person wants to see fish and mobile invertebrates in the display NOW. This, however isn't Nature's way. The whole starting up process of a marine aquarium is dependent upon Nature, and Nature has its own time schedule.

Many readers know how much I care about fish. This post, though related to FOWLR marine systems is about marine fish. It's about having a proper home for your choice of marine fishes and is no less than the same consideration that should be given to preparing to bring a dog or cat into your home.

Rushing the process can produce sick livestock, stressed livestock, injured livestock and aquarium crashes, together with outbreaks of a variety of nuisance microbes and algae that become very problematic later on. This is where and how learning marine aquarists waste more marine life then they will in the years to come (if they stick with the hobby). But, there is no need for this waste if the learning aquarist can cultivate patience. And to help with that, they should understand why that patience is needed.

It was actually easier 30 years ago to get the new aquarist go slow. They didn't have much choice. We didn't use live rock. Now, LFS salespeople sell the (expensive) live rock (LR) on the promise that the marine system doesn't need to cycle and you can begin stocking the display aquarium in a few days. I can't tell you how many times I've heard this same bad information. I even hear professionals, educators and some experienced aquarists saying this same thing. There are two things wrong with claiming:
With LR you can begin adding marine life to your aquarium very quickly.


1. The nitrifying bacteria on the LR have to adjust to the new bio-load. These bacteria don't just 'spring up' to handle the nitrogen wastes created by fish and mobile invertebrates (bio-load). When a bio-load is added, the bacteria slowly increase in numbers as their food (nitrogen waste) becomes more plentiful. This takes time and invariably the marine system will still see a cycle and the aquarist will be able to measure some ammonia and nitrites before they disappear. The cycle may be quicker, even go unnoticed by the aquarist not testing once or twice a day, but not totally absent.

2. THERE IS MORE TO A MARINE SYSTEM THEN JUST THE BACTERIA THAT HANDLE NITROGEN WASTES. In other words, the bacteria that process ammonia to nitrite and nitrite to nitrate (the nitrifying bacteria) are only a fraction of the bacteria and other microbes reproducing and spreading in the new marine system. Adding nitrogen waste producing marine life means that the aquarist is adding food for these bacteria. These organics, together with other organics released by the marine life, cause these kinds of bacteria to multiply. This is a cycle that the aquarist does not measure or readily see. This is what I call the Secret Cycle. This is the main reason why the marine system, even though it contain LR, still needs time to mature.

That is what this post is about the maturing of the marine system.


A normal sequence of steps, and what is happening in the marine system, goes something like this:
1. Tank and equipment is up and running for first time.
Some time must pass for everything to run and settle in to its life-long pattern. The aquarist has to be sure that the lights are on/off when wanted, the pumps are doing their job, flow rate is suitable for the livestock, no leaks in the system, and any final 'junk' finds it way to the filtration process. Aquarist would do well to begin maintenance routine (water changes, etc.) during this time.

2. With live rock for nitrification, the aquarium must show good water quality.
No livestock (other than what comes with the live rock) should be put into the aquarium until ammonia and nitrite levels show zero for a few consecutive days. LR usually brings some die-off with it. That is, LR brings some nitrogen wastes to the empty marine system. Adding foods to the display for LR inhabitants (if any), in small quantities, starts the organic cycle. Not only will a large variety of microbes come and go in the next few months, but they will wax and wane in numbers. DO NOT CONTINUE TO 3. until ALL ammonia and nitrite readings are zero "0." (That is not 'almost' zero, but ZERO or 'undetectable' by an actual test kit results (not test strips)).

3. Clean up crew introduction
Some of the hardy clean-up crew members are to be introduced and fed. Just snails (herbivores and carnivores) to start. More food is introduced into the aquarium now. The bacteria that live on other organic materials are getting a good foot hold. Brown algae and nuisance growth may be apparent. Aquarist keeps removing it and continues with good and diligent maintenance. Aquarist now tests for all important water chemistry parameters according to the livestock wanted. The aquarist practices making adjustments to alkalinity, calcium, magnesium, pH, salinity, and temperature. The new aquarist has got to learn how to keep these things steady and controlled.

4. Introduction of more sensitive mobile invertebrates
Now can come shrimp, larger snails (e.g., conch), hardy brittle stars, and selected crabs. Feed them well. (No hermit crabs ever)! The tank shows signs of a thriving pod population. They seem to be everywhere. This is a good sign that things are moving along.

5. Nuisance 'algae' and microbes seem to settle into a small population.
The system is getting older. The microbes are not shifting in kinds and in numbers as often as they were before. Pollutants are finding their way out of the system or being processed by organisms in the system, at nearly the rate they are being introduced. Delicate brittle stars and additional hardy non-fish livestock may be added, if desired.

6. Hardy fish livestock is introduced, after its quarantine.
This is now a challenging time. The aquarist has waited a long time for this. This is the time the aquarist's patience will be truly tested. The introduction of fish should be as they come out of a 6-week quarantine. That means one fish every 6 weeks can be added to the aquarium. Hardy non-fish reef livestock can be slowly added at a slightly faster rate.

7. Aquarium has maturity.
No (or very little) signs of nuisance microbes or algae. Water quality is stable and where it should be. For larger aquariums, larger clean up crew members may be added (e.g., starfish, cucumber, sand sifting fish, etc.). The frequency of testing the water for chemistry can be relaxed since now the aquarist knows what changes normally occur. The aquarium and aquarist are 'seasoned.' The aquarist needs to make decisions about any additional equipment needs. Is a calcium reactor going to be needed to keep up with those additions? Is a phosphate removal system needed? Are the water changes (quantity and frequency) good enough?

8. More sensitive fishes
At this point in time, the mature aquarium is ready for more sensitive fishes like the large Angelfish, Butterflyfishes, more sensitive Tangs, etc.

What kind of time is needed? These times relate to the above steps:
1. One week.
2. Variable from two weeks. Fully cured LR is assumed here.
3. 2 - 3 weeks. Cleanup crew is first life after LR.
4. 2 -3 weeks. Mobile inverts may be added.
5. From this point the marine system is really maturing
6. Two months. First fish, then additional fish every 6 weeks thereafter if all is well; hardy sessile invertebrates)
7. Two months. Marine System near full maturity.
8. Ongoing. Sensitive marine life.


NOTE: Don't move to the next step at any time ammonia and/or nitrites are detected. After these return to 0 (zero) readings for two weeks, then go to the next step.

What does the time-line usually look like?
0. The aquarium, equipment, and accessories are acquired, assembled and setup
1. Week 1
2. Weeks 2-4 (or more if LR is not fully cured)
3. Weeks 5 - 7 (Clean up crew)
4. Weeks 8 - 9 (Mobile invertebrates)
5. Weeks above 10
6. Weeks 11 - 17 (First fish added, then one every 6 weeks after the last; hardy sessile invertebrates may be added)
7. Weeks 18 - 21 Marine System is nearing full maturity more less hardy marine life may be added
8. Weeks 21+ Marine System is mature and ongoing. (First sensitive fish and sensitive sessile invertebrates may be added). This is now about 7 months after LR was added.


Before the first hardy fish is put into the aquarium, the aquarium should be no less than 2 -3 months old -- or at least 1 months past the time the water quality showed no ammonia or nitrites. Hardy fishes and invertebrates may be introduced when the system has been running with LR for no less than 2 months. After about 5 months, the marine system is ready for sensitive marine life provided the marine aquarist has been doing a proper job of care and maintenance AND the marine system continues to show zero readings of ammonia and nitrites, then later on, undetectable readings of phosphates.

The aquarist can hasten the second step (2.) to the indicated weeks 2 week by choosing live rock that is fully cured and not decaying. So the weeks 2 - 4 can be easily doubled if decaying rock or problems occur. The aquarist doesn't go beyond the second step until ammonia and nitrite levels remain zero using test kits (not test strips) for several consecutive days.

It takes time for a marine system to mature. Maturity is basically when the system is 'organically stabilized' and doesn't have any significant swings of microbe and pod populations. This is like saying that the available organics have reached a steady level -- the exporting of them (e.g., water changes, skimming, carbon/absorbents, macro algae growth, removing detritus, cleaning substrate, cleanup crew consumption, etc.) and the action of microbes processing organics (not just the nitrification bacteria) match those organics being created and being introduced into the system.

So much emphasis is placed on getting the tank to the point where there is no ammonia and nitrite detected by test kits, that it is forgotten that there are hundreds of other types of microbes that need time to also settle into the routine of the organics produced by the inhabitants and introduced by the aquarist (foods for example), a.k.a. bio-load. These microbes don't start their job until the tank is up and running, and can't settle in until the nutrients in the water come to a sort of equilibrium with the things removing or using them. This is Nature's way and Nature's time frame.

If the aquarist wants great success, minimum frustration, elimination of wasted marine life, etc., then time and patience is needed to allow the Secret Cycle to catch up to the nitrogen cycle, and stabilize. This is preparing a proper home for what the learning aquarist wants to invite into their life.


Additional information:

A quarantine article:
An Ounce of Prevention is Worth a Pound of Cure: A Quarantine Tank for Everything by Steven Pro


A quarantine process:
A Quarantine Procedure


Starting up a Fish-Only-With-Live-Rock (FOWLR) Aquarium:
Starting up a Marine Aquarium


A listing of other links:
Table of Contents and Link List



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JoJo

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does everyone believe the time line giving is accurate, there's several successful tank on here that i know the builders move at a swifter pace than whats said in this thread. i think its great info, & good guide lines but i'm wondering once folks find it more convient more a little swifter then slow down if something arises
 

Dentoid

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JoJo, that is more or less the time line I followed with my 90 gallon tank. I will admit that I went swifter on the "sensitive sessile inverts" guideline given and lost 2 BTAs. I added my third BTA at about 1 year and it's doing well. In the 1 1/2 years my tank has been running, I have only lost one fish to unknown causes and 3 to carpet surfing before I installed my anti-jump guard. IMO, Lee's guidelines are more than acceptable and desirable for a healthy, stress-free reef tank.

Lee, do you have any information on "Old Tank Syndrome"?
 

Frankie

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Great info Leebeca! This is what i was taught also. My 90 gallon in NY was my first salt water and i was taught by an old timer (35+years in the hobby) about taking the fist steps slow. It took me 6 months before i was even able to add corals to that tank. I never had any issues with it because i followed what i was taught.
My current tank went more like the above lines. It was a FOWLR for months before i turned it into a reef.
I hope new members to the hobby take this to heart and follow the directions on the bottle. Thanks again for your caring and time to type that out.
 

JoJo

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Thanks for the feedback Scott. just wanted to see if the info was more conservative or not.

Lee, thanks for the info, it will be a great tool for someone like me who is fairly new to the game & didnt have a clear understand of the time frame.
 

BarbMazz

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It's my plan to go slow like this. I figure there will be things to watch along the way even if I'm not adding livestock. It's ALL new to me so I want to enjoy the entire ride. I do better getting to know things in portions anyway... so while I learn how the water works chemistry-wise I won't have to be worrying about how a fish or invertebrate may be doing. Going slow sounds right up my alley.
 

leebca

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It is a slow approach. I tried to make it clear it is best followed by hobbyists -- people new or 'lightweights' in the hobby.

Advanced aquarists know where the timing may be shortened, but they often have insight as to what their final goal is -- the marine life they want to maintain -- and the nuances of choosing equipment they've come to know that works; avoiding those that may be less than optimum.

In general, with a LR marine system, there is quite a bit of entertainment going on even if there are not fish or higher invertebrates in the display for the first couple of months.

The look on people's faces when they look in the display and apparently 'see nothing' then when a bit of food is added, having all the carnivore snails pop up from the substrate and charge towards the food is precious.
 

BarbMazz

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It is a slow approach. I tried to make it clear it is best followed by hobbyists -- people new or 'lightweights' in the hobby.

Advanced aquarists know where the timing may be shortened, but they often have insight as to what their final goal is -- the marine life they want to maintain -- and the nuances of choosing equipment they've come to know that works; avoiding those that may be less than optimum.

In general, with a LR marine system, there is quite a bit of entertainment going on even if there are not fish or higher invertebrates in the display for the first couple of months.

The look on people's faces when they look in the display and apparently 'see nothing' then when a bit of food is added, having all the carnivore snails pop up from the substrate and charge towards the food is precious.

.....and this is part of what I'm SO looking forward to, because I don't really know what all to expect. I want to enjoy each piece of it in turn because I think when it IS a "whole" I will understand better what the puzzle is made of. Well, at least as far as I am able since I don't think there IS a way to understand it all yet.
 

nanoreefing4fun

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:bump: this is great information & most worthy of a bump - even if it is a sticky/bump to top of stickies
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leebca
The Mature Aquarium
One of the most common errors new aquarists make is to try and rush their tank in order to stock it. It's understandable. Often the purchase of a marine aquarium is a more or less spontaneous or impulsive event and the newbie wants instant fish swimming merrily around. This, however isn't Nature's way. The whole starting up process of a marine aquarium is dependent upon Nature, and Nature has its own time schedule.

Rushing the process can produce sick livestock, stressed livestock, injured livestock and aquarium crashes, together with outbreaks of a variety of nuisance microbes and algae.

A normal sequence of events, and what is happening, goes something like this:
1. Tank and equipment is up and running for first time.
Some time must pass for everything to run and settle in to its life-long pattern. The aquarist has to be sure that the lights are on/off when wanted, the pumps are doing their job, flow rate is suitable for the livestock, no leaks in the system, and any final 'junk' finds it way to the filtration process. Aquarist would do well to begin maintenance routine (water changes, etc.) during this time.

2. With live rock for nitrification, the aquarium must show good water quality.
No livestock (other than what comes with the live rock) should be put into the aquarium until ammonia and nitrite levels show zero. Adding frozen foods to the tank in small quantities starts the organic cycle. Not only will a large variety of microbes come and go in the next few months, but they will wax and wane in numbers. DO NOT CONTINUE TO 3. until ALL ammonia and nitrite readings are zero "0." (That is not NEAR ZERO, but ZERO).

3. Clean up crew introduction
Some of the hardy clean-up crew members are to be introduced and fed. Just snails (herbivores and carnivores) to start. More food is introduced into the aquarium now. Bacteria are getting a good foot hold. Brown algae and nuisance growth may be apparent. Aquarist keeps removing it and continues with good and diligent maintenance. Aquarist now tests for all important water chemistry parameters according to the livestock wanted. The aquarist practices making adjustments to alkalinity, calcium, magnesium, pH, salinity, and temperature.

4. Introduction of more sensitive invertebrates
Now can come shrimp, larger snails (e.g., conch), hardy brittle stars, and selected crabs. Feed them well. (No hermit crabs ever)! The tank shows signs of a thriving pod population. They seem to be everywhere.

5. Nuisance 'algae' and microbes seem to settle into a small population.
The tank is getting older. The microbes are not shifting in kinds and in numbers as often as they were before. Pollutants are finding their way out of the system or being processed by organisms in the system, at nearly the rate they are being introduced. Delicate brittle stars and additional hardy non-fish livestock may be added, if desired.

6. Hardy fish livestock is introduced, after its quarantine.
This is now a challenging time. The aquarist has waited a long time for this. This is the time the aquarist's patience will be truly tested. The introduction of fish should be as they come out of a 6-week quarantine. That means one fish every 6 weeks can be added to the aquarium. Hardy non-fish reef livestock can be slowly added at a faster rate.

7. Aquarium has maturity.
No (or very little) signs of nuisance microbes or algae. Water quality is stable and where it should be. For larger aquariums, larger clean up crew members may be added (e.g., starfish, cucumber, etc.). The frequency of testing the water for chemistry can be relaxed since now the aquarist knows what changes normally occur. The aquarium and aquarist are 'seasoned.' The aquarist needs to make decisions about any additional equipment needs. Is a calcium reactor going to be needed to keep up with those additions? Is a phosphate removal system needed? Are the water changes good enough?


8. More sensitive fishes
At this point in time, the mature aquarium is ready for more sensitive fishes like the large Angelfish, Butterflyfishes, more sensitive Tangs, etc.

What kind of time is needed?
1. Two to three weeks.
2. Variable from two weeks to two months.
3. Two months.
4. One month.
6. Four months.
7. Two months.
8. Ongoing.

NOTE: The progress stops at any time ammonia and/or nitrites are detected. After these return to 0 (zero) readings for two to three weeks, the progress may continue.

Before the first hardy fish is put into the aquarium, the aquarium should be no less than 3-4 months old -- or at least 3 months past the time the water quality showed no ammonia or nitrites. Hardy fishes and invertebrates may be introduced for the next four to six months and then after that, the more sensitive fishes.

The aquarist can hasten the second step (2.) by seeding with bacteria or choosing live rock that is aged and not decaying, and choosing to stock the aquarium with 'living substrate' but these don't always work, or may not work well. Frankly, I don't see the value in these kinds of products.

It takes time for an aquarium to mature. Maturity is basically when the tank no longer has shifts of bio-matter wastes, but they tend to remain level with the exporting of them (e.g., water changes, macro algae growth, etc.) and the action of microbes processing organics (not just the nitrification bacteria).

So much emphasis is placed on getting the tank to the point where there is no ammonia and nitrite detected by test kits, that it is forgotten that there are hundreds of other types of microbes that need time to also settle in to the routine of the aquarium. These microbes don't start their job until the tank is up and running, and can't settle in until the nutrients in the water come to a sort of equilibrium with the things removing or using them. This is Nature's way and Nature's time frame. If the aquarist wants great success and minimum frustration, time and patience is needed.
 

nanoreefing4fun

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Lee I read posts frequently that say something like this...

I cycled my tank using Dr. Tim ammonia method, with it you can have a tank cycled in as little as 10 day (starting with only base rock & 10% LR) and ready for the first fish to be added.

When I question this, I hear many say I don't understand Dr. Tim's process.

Have you ever looked at Dr. Tim's "method" if so would you comment on it or cycling a tank in general in 10 days with the "new" products on the market?

I point new members to this thread often, but some tell me, with Dr. Tim's method there is no need to go anywhere near as slow are you advocate & I just can't believe this can be right?

Would appreciate any feedback ! Is there something "new" that has come out since you wrote The Mature Aquarium post or do you still stand by the solid principles in this thread, even with the new products on the market?

Thanks for your help & advise ! If you don't want to comment on any one brand, I understand, maybe you could comment on "new products in general, that promise to cycle tanks & have your tank ready for fish in just days - with claims like this... fish can be added immediately after use"

Setting up a new aquarium: Ammonia Removal: One And Only Nitrifying Bacteria by Dr Tim's Aquatics

Bacterial additive developed by Dr. Timothy A. Hovanec, the renowned expert on nitrifying bacteria. Unlike many other bacterial additives, fish can be added immediately after use. Eliminates new tank syndrome, instantly creates a biofilter, and naturally removes toxic ammonia and nitrite. Use when setting up a new aquarium, or after water changes and disease treatments to quickly establish a natural biological filter
 

leebca

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I began using ammonia to kick start marine aquariums almost 25 years ago. My most recent attempt was with my QT. That was about 2 years ago. It still doesn't quite fulfill the needs of a mature aquarium.

The bacteria 'eat' the ammonia and convert to nitrites and those bacteria 'eat' that, making nitrates as their waste. Well known process. So it would seem that putting in ammonia would be a good start. Hold this thought while you read on.

Next, there are those products that contain the nitrification bacteria you need. They fail because those bacteria are in a metabolic stasis. They are not being fed and have 'shut down' waiting for a better environment -- an environment with food. It takes these bacteria just as long to get up and running as it takes the bacteria from the air, water, and soil to do the same thing. A virtual waste of money.

The worse case to get hobbyists to understand and believe is when they see 'Harry' down the street get his aquarium going in a few days, but theirs took a few weeks. There is no direct accounting on when those bacteria will proliferate and 'take off' in an explosion of population. So this anecdotal information confuses the issue, putting many hobbyists (who have little patience) at odds with what is or isn't 'right.'

The problem with both approaches is this: The other bacteria/micro organisms (I'll use bacteria to include other microbes here) don't get developed. Do you believe that the only bacteria in the system are those doing nitrification? Obviously not. There are those dozens of other bacteria that account for 'eating' other nutrients (the primary one being non-ammonia proteins/organics). These bacteria must also establish themselves. This is what the original post in this thread tries to point out to the reader. A main ingredient missing in the ammonia method is the introduction of fats into the system. There are a couple of different kinds of fats the system must adjust to handling, even with proper filtration.

We have to widen our vision and realize that what is happening in the confines of a closed marine system is an amazing network of organisms interacting and feeding off each other and what the hobbyist is putting into the aquarium. Without fish there, the fats, additional proteins, etc. are not introduced. But with a clean up crew and the addition of these products into the system to feed them, starts the 'hidden cycle' of other bacteria.

For instance, the 'brown algae.' There needs to be some time for this organism to remove silica from the system, be it a glass or plastic container, dissolved silica will be present at the outset of the majority of marine systems. This is an example of one of those micro organisms, living not on ammonia, but needing time to bloom and stabilize. Chemicals released from the substrate, live rock, equipment, etc. need time to be removed/cleaned out, consumed, or reach equilibrium in the new system.

Now let's raise our sights to the 'higher forms' that come in with the live rock. Those pods (dozens of different kinds) include carnivores, herbivores, and omnivores. The carnivores are eating other pods. Herbivores favoring the micro plant life and the omnivores cleaning up/consuming wastes and a wide variety of foods. Their population, in a closed system, waxes and wanes with available nutrients. They have not settled into an equilibrium state where the dominant population has taken over and 'rules the tank.' Even then, the hobbyist can (and often does) throw a wrench into the works and, in changing the environment to favor a disadvantaged pod/high form, then promotes their dominance.

It takes months to reach a stable state in our system. Each fish and much higher marine life form introduced shifts the environment again. So not only do you prefer an older, stable system, but this changes with each addition and thus you want some time for the system to re-stabilize after life is added or modifications to the system are made.

If the hobbyist has this patience, quarantines new life and focuses on proper and the best nutrition, the marine lives in captivity will thrive and our life losses will be considerably reduced.

So what is the best answer? I believe the best thing a new hobbyist can do is take it slowly and focus on establishing a stable environment, without trying to take short cuts. Hobbyists are anxious to get those fish and marine life going, but that isn't what the hobby requires -- the real hobby is how to keep the micro life healthy and happy, creating a stable environment, then putting the fish in.

So what happened to my QT that I seeded with just ammonia? The nitrification bacteria set out and did their job, but in about the same time as if I had done my other approach. The first fish in the system, sent the system into a kind of subtle organic shock, which bloomed another group of bacteria. Not a problem? Yes it was. These bacteria consume oxygen to do their 'eating' and stressed the fish, already stressed from its handling. They are, after all, wild animals. :)

I will modify the post to better represent what is more modern, but not willing to suggest hobbyists start off in a 'fast mode.' :)

 
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nanoreefing4fun

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Thanks Lee for the great reply and helping me and other RS members learn, it can be confusing at times.

All the best !
 
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