I make it as well Paul on an Industrial scale to keep me and my wife in liquor! I also make my own English ales with kegs, bar etc. Been doing it for about 5 years and prior to that I spent a fortune on wine! I drink primarily reds but also make white as well.
I don’t bottle anymore for the last year. I just leave in demijohns until needed and then put it into a 20litre bag in a box (wine box). So much easier!
We cant easily get grapes in the volume needed here in the U.K., so I use the Winexpert Kits mainly the high end Eclipse kits. The wine it produces is pretty much as good as you buy otherwise I wouldn’t do it.
Same with the beer, because it’s made for my own tastes, I can’t bare to drink beer from pubs anymore, tastes like fizzy water!
And sat outside in the garden drinking something you have made yourself, that tastes that good, is truly wonderful! Lol