LiveAquaria BlueSpot sale $84.99

ReefLady

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While scrounging around for the latest deals for Fish Dealz I found this:

Saltwater Aquarium Fish for Marine Aquariums: Jawfish, Blue Dot

Seems like a great deal on Bluespots so I thought I'd share it here. They're usually $130 but on sale for $84.99 this week at LiveAquaria.


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Enjoy!
 
PSU4ME

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That is a good deal. I've always wanted toget one but just never had the right tank setup for one. Hopefully someday!
 
Mayja

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ARRRRGGGGGHHHH! This is the next fish I want to get but I am too broke to afford him! I'm sure the sale will come around again. At least, that's what I'll keep telling myself.
 
DianaKay

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BEAUTIFUL FISH! Saw one at the LFS for $90. Was tempted because he acted like he really wanted me to take him home with me :D ....just not a very hardy long lived fish?
I get too attached & BSJF tank life, from what I read is not a very long one.
SO, Who is going to order one? I love to follow your journal with it. :)
 
Mayja

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One of my LFS said they would sell one for $90. Now, I just have to get hubby to say, "Sure, honey! Go spend more money on fish!" Said no husband, ever.
 
Oxylebius

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I saw that and spent the weekend researching them. I seriously considered, but these fish come directly from the wild and live in temps that hardly ever reach the 70s (should be kept in 60 degree water range). I know that many folks have kept them in tanks w/temp ranges of 77-80, but I'm really against taking sub-tropical fish (just like the Catalina Goby) and placing them in warm tanks. Makes me wonder how it messes w/their metabolism and does it limit their life expectancy. And as a responsible pet owner wanting to provide the best home I can for my critters, I just can't buy this fish.

Dr. Fenner has lots of info online on them.
http://www.tfhmagazine.com/details/...sh-opistognathus-rosenblatti-full-article.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/BlueSptJawArt.htm
There was also a research study done last year of reproductive success of these in aquariums, but it was in Spanish and I can't read it. Here is the abstract in English: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23025099

It is a Beautiful fish.
 
Oxylebius

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Really?

Sea surface temperature maybe, not at depth where they live. Where are you getting your information on this from?

I am open to a debate on this. If you can prove me wrong, that would great b/c then I can buy the fish. Here is what I found over the weekend.

Out of all the scientific literature and web pages (that have valid information either by citing their sources or are recognized as reliable (i.e. not web pages that sell fish and want to make a profit)) not one identified that these fish live in waters that are warm/tropical. They were either found in temperate or sub-tropical waters. I list the sources and web pages that I found below.

These fish are endemic to a specific range in the Tropical Eastern Pacific Region. The Tropical Eastern Pacific Region extends from Baja CA to northern Peru, including the Gulf of California. The northern quarter of the Gulf of California is also included as part of this tropical region even though it has a more subtropical to temperate environment and fish fauna with significant affinities to the fauna of the temperate Californian Province.

These fish are found near the tip of Baja California and the lower ¾ of the Gulf of California (Sea of Cortez) and the Revillagigedo Islands (offshore Islands in the Pacific water), Mexico. The fish is locally abundant at several island locations in the Gulf of California and near Cabo San Lucas. The Gulf of California constitutes the subtropical part of the region where this fish is located (map below) and the fish are harvested from Mexican waters based on several sources. In the Gulf of California, the range of sea surface temperatures increases greatly towards the northern Gulf (to as much as 82 degrees), but this fish is not found in that area and is not found in surface waters. Sea Surface Temperatures in the Sea of Cortez range from 68-80 degrees (map link below). Again this is sea surface temperatures, not where the fish lives at depth. There are also areas on the east and west coast of the Gulf of California that experience seasonal upwelling, where deep cold nutrient water is brought to the surface. The separation of the areas with different temperature regimes in the upper and central Gulf is enhanced by a zone of permanently cold water around the islands, where many of the fish live (map below). Sea surface temperatures are going to be warmer then temperatures at depth.

Most of the literature said they are found at depths from 5-25 meters (16-82 feet), juveniles are usually found in shallow waters and adults in deeper waters. Their habitats include the marine neritic zone (submergent nearshore continental shelf or oceanic island), in subtidal loose rocky/pebble/gravel/sandy locations. The temperature range of the habitat of where most of these fish are found is between 22.443 - 23.459 ℃ (72-74 degrees Fahrenheit) as identified by research and located in colder temps the deeper you go.



References:

IUCN Red List of Threatened Species: http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/155269/0 (Allen, G.R. and Robertson, D.R. 1991. Quatre espèces nouvelles d' Opisthognathidae (jawfishes) du Pacifique oriental tropical. Revue Français d'Aquariologie 18(8): 47-52.)

EOL: http://eol.org/pages/1157739/details (Allen, G.R. and D.R. Robertson 1994 Fishes of the tropical eastern Pacific. University of Hawaii Press, Honolulu. 332 p. (Ref. 11482))

First Map of Distribution: http://www.iobis.org/mapper/?taxon=Opistognathus+rosenblatti

Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute: http://biogeodb.stri.si.edu/sftep/taxon_option_main.php?lvl=S&id=483

Second Map of Distribution: http://biogeodb.stri.si.edu/sftep/maps_mod_rangemapsingle_fullsize.php?lvl=S&id=483

Discover Life: http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20q?search=Opistognathus+rosenblatti

Gulf of CA Sea Surface Temp (SST) map: http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/contour/gulfcalf.cf.gif

And Dr. Fenner has lots of info online on them.
http://www.tfhmagazine.com/details/a...ll-article.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/BlueSptJawArt.htm
 
Mayja

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Oxylebius said:
I saw that and spent the weekend researching them. I seriously considered, but these fish come directly from the wild and live in temps that hardly ever reach the 70s (should be kept in 60 degree water range). I know that many folks have kept them in tanks w/temp ranges of 77-80, but I'm really against taking sub-tropical fish (just like the Catalina Goby) and placing them in warm tanks. Makes me wonder how it messes w/their metabolism and does it limit their life expectancy. And as a responsible pet owner wanting to provide the best home I can for my critters, I just can't buy this fish.

Dr. Fenner has lots of info online on them.
http://www.tfhmagazine.com/details/...sh-opistognathus-rosenblatti-full-article.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/BlueSptJawArt.htm
There was also a research study done last year of reproductive success of these in aquariums, but it was in Spanish and I can't read it. Here is the abstract in English: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23025099

It is a Beautiful fish.
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Thank you for this bounty of information. I'll be considering a pearly from here on out.
 
Mayja

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So, who wants to sponsor a nano cube tank with all the trimmings for me so I can properly recreate this baby's home?
 
Oxylebius

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Kremlin said:
they move their burrows from the deep water to the shallow 30-55ft water in the summer
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You will not find 80 degree water at 30-55ft. That is depth and cooler water. All information presented shows they live in temperate and sub-tropical water. Argue all you want but you won't change that. Unless you can produce a published paper showing that they live their entire life in 80 degree water, I suggest that you please keep these fish in cooler temps for their own good. If your current tank inhabitants can tolerate cooler temps, I would suggest keeping the tank a little cooler, ~77-78 degrees. Though not ideal b/c it should be a little cooler, it is probably better than 80 degrees.

Good luck with your second purchase of this fish. I sincerely hope you have better luck the second time around. That is not sarcasm, I really hope this one survives.
 
710Reefer

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I ordered one on Sunday. I will be a new BSJF owner tomorrow. Fingers crossed for a healthy and super cool fish..
 
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Hey everyone, my BSJF came in today. Everything went smooth and he arrived in good health. Was already super active in the bag, no jet lag lol.

Sorry about the box pictures, I wanted to keep the room dim to not cause him any more stress..






After acclimation, i netted him and placed him inside the tank. He started going to work as soon as he hit the sand.





He started building his burrow in the exact spot I was hopping he would. I like to think I gave him a head start with my reefscape. I added a bunch of rubble that i got from my LFS today.







He should have a fun time building it. I have more rubble was placed not too long ago, buying more if he needs it.
I already love the little guy, super cool fish and he is not afraid of me whats so ever.. Glad I got a cool BSJF, fed him some mysis shrimp and he accept it. Im gonna try and feed him some pellets of flakes tomorrow to see if he is picky about anything.

Comment and let me know what you think :wave:
 
goma

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Very cool, congrats! They are awesome and have a lot of personality.
 
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