"Balling Method" for supplementing

[RalfP]

Ralf, I didn't know we could order directly from Grotech! I was planning on ordering my TECH III from Aquarium & Pond products from SeaMe.com - For hobbyist & professional - Only the best is good enough
I couldn't find those bumps here in the US either

FYI.. I just sent an email to AquariumObsessed (only USA distributor ) and DarkLordCoral.

Seems that they don't (Grotech) :-(
I was misleaded by their english menu in the onlineshop, but even the term&condition page behind the engl. menuentry is german .
Ralf

 

[Woodstock]

Booze - email sent to aquariumspecialty.

No Problem Ralf. I knew it was too good to be true

 

[Dentoid]

Doni, does Aquarium products for the Professional and Hobbyist. Shipping all over the world., the company you have researched for the Grotech dosers, have the NaCl free salt? It could be ordered at the same time as the doser.

I'm still fussing for space for this new equipment.

 

[prow]

would "Live Bearer Salt" work here, Live Bearer Salt ? it has some Na+ but minimal amounts. maybe a email to seachem might help.

 

[Woodstock]

Scott, I have emailed them.

Prow, I do not know. I TRIED to email Seachem but it bounced back and said my server was blacklisted

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No wonder US reefers do not use a sodium chloride free salt! Gezzzz... It's not available here!!

 

[Dentoid]

If not NaCl, what kind of salt is it?

 

[boozeman]

Blacklisted !!! :verymad:

its hard to find here because we prefer to use the
co2 reactors instead.

 

[prow]

lol, blacklisted what did you do??? you must have used the wrong wond:dodle:

ok, i emailed them about it and asked if they had other mixes that are NaCl- free. we will see what they have to say.

 

[Woodstock]

If not NaCl, what kind of salt is it?

For those who are interested, the following artificial seawater recipe is taken from "Chemical Oceanography" by Frank Millero. It makes a recipe that matches 35 ppt seawater in terms of major ions, but does not try to match all minor and trace elements, most of which will be present as impurities in the major elements.

23.98 g sodium chloride
5.029 g magnesium chloride
4.01 g sodium sulfate
1.14 g calcium chloride
0.699 g potassium chloride
0.172 g sodium bicarbonate
0.100 g potassium bromide
0.0254 g boric acid
0.0143 g strontium chloride
0.0029 g sodium fluoride
Water to 1 kg total weight.

So...
Remove the sodium chloride only from the above ingredients to achieve a NaCl-free salt.

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[hma]

Hello Doni Marie,

ask Tropic Marine USA where you can buy - Tropic Marine Pro Special Mineral - in the USA. They should be able to tell you a Shop. Or Marine Depot, they sell quite various TM products.


BTW .... here is a link in UK : http://www.tmc-ltd.co.uk/aquarium/tropic-additives.asp

 

[prow]

there you go doni, if TM sells it someone over here should be able to at least special order it.

 

[Woodstock]

Thanks Heinz I sent an email to Tropic Marin earlier today. I will send one to Marine Depot right now...

 

[Dentoid]

Sorry, I was confused. Now I get it! It's a NaCl free, salt mix.

 

[Woodstock]

there you go doni, if TM sells it someone over here should be able to at least special order it.

You'd think so! :hammerhea


No problem Scott! Welcome to my world

 

[hma]

Thanks Heinz I sent an email to Tropic Marin earlier today. I will send one to Marine Depot right now...

An other option is to ask Claude Schuhmacher, he is the owner of Fauna Marine. He sells his products in the USA via Dark Lord Coral Co. Claude is a fine guy, you reach Him via Contact sheet in his shop (Aqua Terra Shop)

https: // AquaTerraShop - Meerwasser

He vends there NaCl free salt of different manufacturers and can help you certainly.

BTW ... he sells also GroTech III NG dosing pumps in a special order with the balling salt.

https://wwws.aquaterrashop.de/meerwasser-neu/product_info.php/products_id/2278

 

[Dentoid]

Doni, let me know if/when you decide to do this and I will do it too. We can have two independent studies going on at the same time and post our experiences and results. We can share in the fun and learning!

 

[Woodstock]

Thanks Heinz. Email sent.

 

[Woodstock]

Doni, let me know if/when you decide to do this and I will do it too. We can have two independent studies going on at the same time and post our experiences and results. We can share in the fun and learning!

Okay

Really, the only thing new for me is the addition of a doser, NaCl-free salt, and mineral/vit addition. I am already adding calcium, magnesium and sodium carbonate manually (Randy's Two Part). I bet you are too

 

[Dentoid]

You are right there. I think what I like about this method is the automation which I'm sure has its own set of problems, but I'm willing to accept that.

 

[Anselth]

Alright, you folks have to stop this. Every time I think I have all the equipment I need, you all have to go and come up with some other great new thing that's going to make my reef better. I'm not falling for it this time!

So where do I get one of these dosers?