Nobby's S-650
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Pancho75
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OMG! LOL!
What did your wife say after your “stardom attempt”?
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I am Home Alone. She has gone to Majorca for the week with Mini Me.
rustyreefer
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Maybe you should embrace the possibility of you becoming an internet blooper sensation!
OK, so the review of the NYOS Viper 3.0.
It is slightly smaller than the original Sicce Circulation pump and has a handy flow-rate adjuster on the front which is easier to use. When I placed it in the rear chamber the only modification needed was an inch cut off the original small piece of green hose, easily done with a pair of scissors. Power up was ok. There is no way to check the flow-rate though apart from sticking your finger in front of the outlet nozzle, and it was quite clear that the Viper was outperforming the Sicce pumps. This pump is certainly more powerful.
For noise tests, I just switched off the other three Sicce pumps one at a time and used my Human 1.0 Lugholes to listen, and in my opinion, the Viper is much more quieter.
But......
There is bad news. It's the cable length. If you stand in front of the S-650 I usually label the circulation pumps 1 to 4, from left to right. With the standard cable length on the Viper it only just reaches the power centre if you place the pump in the No.1 position. However, once plugged in you cannot open the power centre. Even in the No.1 position it needs an extension, which means if you replaced all four they'd all need it. I have contacted NYOS to ask if they supply the pumps with a longer power cable, and they've told me 'NO'. The No.4 pump cable (if Viper) would not even reach the end of the rear chamber, which means that somehow you have to rig up cables down the back.
For this reason alone I unfortunately have to give the NYOS Viper series of pumps the thumbs down. It's nice, powerful and quiet, but the cable length.......oh dear.
It is slightly smaller than the original Sicce Circulation pump and has a handy flow-rate adjuster on the front which is easier to use. When I placed it in the rear chamber the only modification needed was an inch cut off the original small piece of green hose, easily done with a pair of scissors. Power up was ok. There is no way to check the flow-rate though apart from sticking your finger in front of the outlet nozzle, and it was quite clear that the Viper was outperforming the Sicce pumps. This pump is certainly more powerful.
For noise tests, I just switched off the other three Sicce pumps one at a time and used my Human 1.0 Lugholes to listen, and in my opinion, the Viper is much more quieter.
But......
There is bad news. It's the cable length. If you stand in front of the S-650 I usually label the circulation pumps 1 to 4, from left to right. With the standard cable length on the Viper it only just reaches the power centre if you place the pump in the No.1 position. However, once plugged in you cannot open the power centre. Even in the No.1 position it needs an extension, which means if you replaced all four they'd all need it. I have contacted NYOS to ask if they supply the pumps with a longer power cable, and they've told me 'NO'. The No.4 pump cable (if Viper) would not even reach the end of the rear chamber, which means that somehow you have to rig up cables down the back.
For this reason alone I unfortunately have to give the NYOS Viper series of pumps the thumbs down. It's nice, powerful and quiet, but the cable length.......oh dear.
Yep, the Viper ticks all the boxes for a replacement circulation pump, apart from the cable length.
SPR
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What’s wrong with getting an extension cable, or am I missing something else ?
If the pumps are good presumably you could just use an extension lead with a Europe plug for the power centre ?
Or just get a 4 gang extension and plug all 4 pumps into that and then one plug into the power centre. I’ve actually got a 4 gang to do this and Europe plug and I’ll swap it over when one of the breaks and I next clean them. It will make them much easier to remove without the nest of wires.
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SPR
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That's no good at all then unless the lead can at least come out of the gap on the left.
I was going to Velcro the extension 4 gang to one of the back sides (probably left) were they come out and then you would just unplug them for cleaning and put them back in.
I would have thought NYOS would come up with a better option. Ive just bought a 1000lph pond pump for £22 and it has 10m of cable...
chickenjohn
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You should stick to tried and tested, I made the mistake of trying something new, namely red sea skimmer and went back to deltec, the grass is very rarely greener
SPR
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They look very good and look like a solid build quality, and they must be confident if they give the 5 year warranty
It also looks like they have all the modern functions and in the Max S a feed mode/reduced flow were it just trickles across the overflow would be very handy
Pancho75
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Yes and they have all the tricks as the Vectra, the reef mode, protections against running dry and getting stuck and and app that does not need a ReefLink to manage the pump. It reminds me the AI Hydra...
Did I mention is US$ 110 cheaper than Ecotech?
The only drawback I see is the lack of a Battery Pack like Ecotech but you can always buy a UPS.
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Pancho75
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Update on the NYOS Torq.
It is now running silently. There is no noise whatsoever from the water running down the outside and back into the tank. Both the Rowaphos and the carbon are tumbling quite nicely, with the Rowaphos on the bottom and the Carbon on the top.
One thing I have noticed, and I can't explain this, is that now and again I find that the main tube has 'fallen over' a bit. It's not straight, and I have to reach in and re-position it in an upright position. No idea as to why this is happening.
However, my Phos is locked down at 0.02ppm, and the Carbon is doing what Carbon does, I assume !
Very happy with it.
It is now running silently. There is no noise whatsoever from the water running down the outside and back into the tank. Both the Rowaphos and the carbon are tumbling quite nicely, with the Rowaphos on the bottom and the Carbon on the top.
One thing I have noticed, and I can't explain this, is that now and again I find that the main tube has 'fallen over' a bit. It's not straight, and I have to reach in and re-position it in an upright position. No idea as to why this is happening.
However, my Phos is locked down at 0.02ppm, and the Carbon is doing what Carbon does, I assume !
Very happy with it.
chickenjohn
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Glad to hear you cant hear the water running out the sides of the reactor, that was a point that was putting me off buying one, will think about getting one now.
Yeah, the 'slime' seems to have built up on the outside, as claimed by by NYOS.